Field studies: Interview
My original interview was held in german. As I assume that not everybody who wants to read the interview speaks german, I translated it for you.
Original interview
Interviewer (I): Oh, Deutsche, haben Sie Zeit und Lust an einem Interview teilzunehmen?
Vater (V) & Tochter (T): Ja.
I: Ich studiere an der KTH und dort haben wir ein Projekt, dass sie mit der Entwicklung einer App befasst, um ihr Erlebnis hier in Tomtits zu verbessern. Wie ich sehe, ist Ihre Tochter schon erwachsen, dann überspringe ich die Frage nach dem Alter der Kinder mal. Sind Sie zum ersten Mal hier?
V: Ja.
T: Schon öfters.
I: Was gefällt es Ihnen hier?
V: Es gibt viele interessante Experimente. Aus sehr vielen unterschiedlichen Bereichen.
I: Vermissen Sie etwas hier?
V: Erklärungen zu den Experimenten. Schau, hier ist nur ein Schild mit den Namen und das war es.
T: Am Eingang haben sie uns das hier [eine Art Buch] mit Erläuterungen gegeben. Das ist aber komplett auf Schwedisch.
V: Und äußerst knapp.
I: Glauben Sie Eltern sind überfordert mit dem Erklären der Phänomene?
V: Ich nicht, aber ich bin auch Physiklehrer. Ich denke, dass ohne zusätzliche Hinweise es den Eltern schwer fällt Sachverhalte zu erklären.
Beispielsweise in diesem Experiment wirkt die Corioliskraft. Das hat damit zu tun...
T: Papa, ich glaube, das war nicht Teil der Frage.
(lacht)
I: Hier rennen viele Kinder herum, sogar ohne die Eltern. Lernen diese hier etwas?
V: Nein. Die rennen von einem zum nächsten Punkt und sehen nicht mal, was zu beobachten gibt.
Hier
[Experiment einer mit Wasser gefüllten Schüssel] heben es die Kinder an und stellen es ab. Sie sehen nicht besonderes und rennen weiter.
Drehen hier
[Experiment mit Drehkopf und Wasserstrahlen von innen nach außen und außen nach innen] einmal und weg sind sie.
Da können sie nicht lernen.
I: Sie die Experimente zu komplex?
V: Unten sind Motoren ausgestellt. Mit Antriebswelle und so weiter.
Das können sie noch nicht verstehen, man müsste alle Teile einzeln erklären. Das ist für Ältere geeignet.
T: Hier oben hat es auch simplere Sachen. Da können die Kinder schon die Effekte sehen, wenn sie wollen.
I: Wäre es für die Eltern hilfreich eine App zur Hand zu haben, die sie mit Informationen zum Experiment unterstützt?
V: Ja, das könnte ich mir vorstellen. Wobei es einen Unterschied macht, wie alt die Kinder sind. Meiner Tochter kann ich mit physikalischen Begriffe Dinge erklären,
während Kleinkinder weitaus einfachere Sprache brauchen.
T: Ich habe gesehen, dass es schon eine App gibt und sie heruntergeladen.
Leider ist sie komplett auf schwedisch und die Erklärungen sind sogar noch kürzer als in dem Heft.
V: Es reicht nicht Erklärungen zu nicht gestellten Fragen zu bringen. Es muss die Motivation zum Beobachten gefördert werden. Das ist hier der entscheidende Punkt.
I: Die Motivation zum Beobachten, das wollen wir ändern. Vielen Dank für das Gespräch.
Translated interview:
Interviewer (I): Oh, germans, do you have time to participate in an interview?
Father (F) and daughter (D): Yes!
I: I am studying at th KTH and we have a project, whose result will be an app, which improves your experience at TomTits. As I can see your daughter is already an adult, we'll skip the question after the age of your daughter. Is this your first time here?
F: Yes.
D: Once in a while.
I: What do you like at this place?
F: There are many interesting experiments. Related to many different topics.
I: Are you missing something here?
F: Descriptions to the experiments. Look, here you only find a sign with the name and that's all.
D: At the entrance they gave me this [some kind of book of TomTits] with commentaries. But it is completly in Swedish.
F: And really short.
I: Do you think parents are overstrained by explaining those phenomeons?
F: I am not, but I am teaching physics. I guess
without addional notes it is an hard task for parents to explain these phenomeons. For instance at this experiment Coriolis force can be observed. It is as...
D: Dad, I guess, this is not part of the question.
(laughs)
I: There are many children running around, even without parents. Will they learn anything here?
F: No. They are running from one point to the next one and don't even have a look, what can be observed.
Here
[experiment with a bowle filled with water] they lift it and put it back. They don't notice anything special and continue running. There
[experiment with turning head and jets of water from inside to outside and from outside to inside] they turn once and digress. On that way it is impossible to learn anything.
I: Are the experiments too complex?
F: Down in the hall you find engines. With motor shaft and so on...
They are still not able to comprehend that. You have to excerpt part for part and explain them on their own. That suits better to grown-ups.
D: On this floor there are some simpler ones. There small children are also able to observe effects if they want to.
I: Would it be helpful for parents, if they can use an app providing them with information to certain experiments?
F: Yes, I can imagine that. Whereat the children's age makes a big difference. I can explain things to my daughter by using physical definitions, while
smaller children require a much easier language.
D: I have seen that there already exists an app and have downloaded it. Unfortunately it is
completly in swedish and the
explainations even shorter than in the book.
F: It is not enough to deliver explainations to questions, which have not been asked. You need to
stimulate the motivation to observe. That is the important clue in this case.
I: This motivation to observe phenomenons we want to raise. Thank you for the interview.
The observations of this father and his daughter are very similar to the observations I have made myself.
In conclusion there are three main points.
First of all the need to
stimulate children to care about what is observable at each experiment.
Second there is potential for
improvement in informing parents and supporting learning with information about observable effects, keywords for explanation and so on.
Third point is that an
differentiation in age is of great importance.
I have been at Tomtits on wednesday and there have only been nine families. I have tried to interview all of these.
Two denied the participation in the interview, one was unable to speak english.
Four mothers have been there with children too young to do experiments and just for fun.
Therefore in my eyes there is no need for any kind of app for children under 4.
One family consists of a mother with her fifteen year old daughter and her nine old son. In her eyes this place opens children the eyes for phenomeons in nature.
She let her kids run around and don't see any potential for improvement.
State-of-the-art analysis: TomTits-App
Tomtits provides an app, which offers three categories: generell information as well as maps and descriptions to experiments.
Generell information contains four boxes, one for each: ticket prices, hours of opening, drive map and who is responsible for this app.
Under every box is an link to their web page for further information. This results in the need for an internet connection.
If visitors knew about this app in advance, they could use their wifi at home or more convinient they head straight to the webpage using a device with a bigger screen.
The next category is called "Karta" and offers for each floor a nice illustrated map. Special areas are highlighted by different colours.
Instinctively you try to change maps by sliding, which is not possible. Instead you have to select the name of the map.
By chance it turned out it is
possible to zoom in maps. It is the same two-finger motion as you use usually at photos, though no hint is given that this feature is built in.
The detailed map shows each experiment and links to their description in the last category "Experiment".
There you can find all experiments by number or name. Besides the floor is stated, where the experiment is build up.
Selecting an experiment provides you with a short description of it. Furthermore a link to their webpage is given, where an extensive explanation is found.
This requires you to have mobile internet.
The app has some downsides. First of all maps and extensive descriptions need much space on the screen. Probably using a tablet will improve user experience.
As already mentioned in the interview the whole app as well as the
webpage is completly in swedish.
This makes it
besides orientation useless for foreigners and addionally makes it impossible for me to judge the content.
The
target group consists of swedish speaking parents with smart phones or tablets.
In the interviews it turned out that many parents
get to know about this app the first time at Tomtits and then in most of the cases are not interested in spending their time to learn of the possibilities the app provides.
On the other hand it is hard for Tomtits let parents know about it earlier since nearly every interviewee stated that they have
not prepared themselves in advance.
In conclusion it can be said that app the provides helpful information, is nicely illustrated and easy to use. Unfortunately it only aims for swedish speaking parents.
Furthermore the usage without mobile internet is limited to orientation with the maps as extensive descriptions are only online available.